Pantani finds his power in the drops. Photo: Tom Able-Green/ALLSPORT

It’s no secret that I’m prone to riding in the big ring as much as possible, mostly on account of my not being a giant sissy. In accordance with the ISO Non-Sissy Standard, I also never read instruction manuals or ask for directions when lost. I make sure to only rarely ask my VMH to turn up the radio when Adele comes on, usually followed quickly by an ernest explanation of how I thought it was Metallica, and how Rolling in the Deep ripped off the opening to Enter Sandman. The record does show, however, that I occasionally fly into hysterics when surprised by an insect or amphibian – but that’s just good common sense.

Pantani’s in-the-drops climbing style has always impressed me, but he’s only one of the riders who won races going down in the drops looking for more power on the climbs; Jan Ullrich was often climbing in the drops as well as our mate Johan Museeuw – not to mention Richard Virenque and so did Frank Vandenbroucke. Looking at that list, I wonder if the UCI should explore adjusting the test for EPO to examine time spent climbing in the drops.

Riding the route of Liege-Bastogne-Liege with Johan last Keepers Tour, I noticed a pattern in his riding style. Whenever the gradient increased on a climb, instead of changing gear he just moved his hands to the drops and rose out of the saddle to casually push the same gear over the steep. It looked so easy, it was impossible to resist trying it myself. At first, there is a strange sort of sensation, like you’re dipping your nose into the tarmac. But then when you switch to the hoods, you notice an immediate loss of leverage. After practicing it, it becomes second nature.

Someone once told me that the key to going fast is to try to break your handlebars, and that’s just what I’ve been trying to do lately although I hope I’m ultimately unsuccessful. Since gleaning this trick from Johan’s riding style, I’ve been staying in the big ring longer and climbing  out of the saddle in the drops, pulling hard on bars and feeling them flex. Its not always faster than spinning a low gear but it has the benefit of taking the load off your cardiovascular system and putting it on your muscular system – a handy thing if your form is missing something or you’ve got massive guns (which I don’t).

This has brought another notion to light: the lower the hand position, the better able you are to find the leverage you need to turn the pedals. This is one of the principle issues with the sit up and beg epidemic, apart from it looking crap and being less stable. But hand height seems to impact power; I’ve noticed that when I’m climbing on the tops, I can breath easily and I’m able to maintain a speed well, but acceleration is difficult. To accelerate or hold a pace up a steep gradient (which is almost the same as accelerating), I’m better served riding on the hoods where my position is a bit lower. But when I really need power, I go looking for it in the drops.

All this brings into question the current trend towards compact bars and flat hand positions between the tops and hoods, with the drops only a bit lower. Compare that to the deep drops ridden in the past, in the style of Eddy Merckx and Roger de Vlaeminck where the hoods were halfway between the tops and the drops. The modern bar shape and hood position seems to reduce the riding positions to as few as possible, while in the past, they were designed to provide as many as possible.

In any case, big sweeping drops look the business and I’m pretty sure they are in complete compliance with the ISO Non-Sissy Standard.

frank

The founder of Velominati and curator of The Rules, Frank was born in the Dutch colonies of Minnesota. His boundless physical talents are carefully canceled out by his equally boundless enthusiasm for drinking. Coffee, beer, wine, if it’s in a container, he will enjoy it, a lot of it. He currently lives in Seattle. He loves riding in the rain and scheduling visits with the Man with the Hammer just to be reminded of the privilege it is to feel completely depleted. He holds down a technology job the description of which no-one really understands and his interests outside of Cycling and drinking are Cycling and drinking. As devoted aesthete, the only thing more important to him than riding a bike well is looking good doing it. Frank is co-author along with the other Keepers of the Cog of the popular book, The Rules, The Way of the Cycling Disciple and also writes a monthly column for the magazine, Cyclist. He is also currently working on the first follow-up to The Rules, tentatively entitled The Hardmen. Email him directly at rouleur@velominati.com.

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  • @Puffy

    @frank

    Do both and get good at both. But climbing in the big ring is very good for building leg strength and that pays off on the long run.

    You think there is at least, and I would have agreed with you until I read this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24550843

    That's very interesting, both for the article and for your charmingly naive idea that science and logic might have any impact on Frank's pre-conceived and utterly unshakeable beliefs.

    On the article it is certainly against the grain - not just in cycling but many strength-based sports believe that low-rep-high-resistance training builds muscle strength.

    No doubt the experiment was properly done but I wouldn't be prepared to jettison decades of empirical results on the basis of a single study.

    Having said that it also highlights a disconnect in what Frank and others are talking about - powering up a short sharp climb in the big ring is fairly standard but it isn't low cadence strength building. 10 or 12 times for 5 minutes each @90% power, and alternating with high RPM in between at similar power - that's a low cadence workout.

  • @frank

    @The Grande Fondue

    But Andrey Kashechkin is famous for his stem. He had a custom 17cm stem for a long time, but some are reporting 20cm now. Not sure I believe that though.

    I think I'm in love with this guy while at the same time I feel irrationally and unjustifiably inadequate.

    They say the girth matters more than the length.

    Can't say I'd know, though.

  • I have been eyeballing the Ritchey neo- classic. nice classic bend in compact geo. While I would be classified as tiny by American standerds I don't have small hands. on a compact now but the tighter bend is't awesome for my mitt size. the Richtey seems a rounder( much better looking ) bend. Nice article, when I feel shitty and there is a 15% short ramp ahead getting in the drops and shifting to a bigger gear usually makes me much happier.

  • @frank

    @geoffrey

    I think compact bars make sense if you already have a decent position on the hoods, ie not too Sit Up and Beg. As for the "big ring" willy waving, you should be in the gear that gets up the hill in the best way. You might want to stress the cv system by spinning or stress the big muscles by pushing a big gear, or whatever. There is nothing intrinsically virtuous about the big ring. Yes, I know that is heretical, but I am a rule wholist. Gear inches are gear inches.

    I'm so glad someone took the bait. Do both and get good at both. But climbing in the big ring is very good for building leg strength and that pays off on the long run.

    As for gear inches is gear inches, read the literature - this simply is not the correct physically. There are gains and losses in chain tension, friction from bending the links (horizontally and radially, leverage, and a multitude of other factors that play into it. All the math says the gains are negligible at best, but also that if there is an advantage, it is riding big-big versus small-small to get to the same gear length.

    Who said anything about big-big and small-small? I'm talking about small-big! 39/23 will get you up a hill at 20 kph at 90 rpm. On a 7% grade that is something like 5-6 watts/kilo (according to an online calculator that may or may not be accurate). Sounds about right to me. Isn't that in the elite class?

  • @geoffrey

    @frank

    @geoffrey

    I think compact bars make sense if you already have a decent position on the hoods, ie not too Sit Up and Beg. As for the "big ring" willy waving, you should be in the gear that gets up the hill in the best way. You might want to stress the cv system by spinning or stress the big muscles by pushing a big gear, or whatever. There is nothing intrinsically virtuous about the big ring. Yes, I know that is heretical, but I am a rule wholist. Gear inches are gear inches.

    I'm so glad someone took the bait. Do both and get good at both. But climbing in the big ring is very good for building leg strength and that pays off on the long run.

    As for gear inches is gear inches, read the literature - this simply is not the correct physically. There are gains and losses in chain tension, friction from bending the links (horizontally and radially, leverage, and a multitude of other factors that play into it. All the math says the gains are negligible at best, but also that if there is an advantage, it is riding big-big versus small-small to get to the same gear length.

    Who said anything about big-big and small-small? I'm talking about small-big! 39/23 will get you up a hill at 20 kph at 90 rpm. On a 7% grade that is something like 5-6 watts/kilo (according to an online calculator that may or may not be accurate). Sounds about right to me. Isn't that in the elite class?

    Yes it is but the missing element in your post is duration (and weight).

    Most anyone can do 5-6 w/kg for a short burst but I doubt anyone here would even come close to it on a 45 minute climb.

    If they can they should be contacting an agent to arrange their pro contract.

  • @ChrisO

    @geoffrey

    @frank

    @geoffrey

    I think compact bars make sense if you already have a decent position on the hoods, ie not too Sit Up and Beg. As for the "big ring" willy waving, you should be in the gear that gets up the hill in the best way. You might want to stress the cv system by spinning or stress the big muscles by pushing a big gear, or whatever. There is nothing intrinsically virtuous about the big ring. Yes, I know that is heretical, but I am a rule wholist. Gear inches are gear inches.

    I'm so glad someone took the bait. Do both and get good at both. But climbing in the big ring is very good for building leg strength and that pays off on the long run.

    As for gear inches is gear inches, read the literature - this simply is not the correct physically. There are gains and losses in chain tension, friction from bending the links (horizontally and radially, leverage, and a multitude of other factors that play into it. All the math says the gains are negligible at best, but also that if there is an advantage, it is riding big-big versus small-small to get to the same gear length.

    Who said anything about big-big and small-small? I'm talking about small-big! 39/23 will get you up a hill at 20 kph at 90 rpm. On a 7% grade that is something like 5-6 watts/kilo (according to an online calculator that may or may not be accurate). Sounds about right to me. Isn't that in the elite class?

    Yes it is but the missing element in your post is duration (and weight).

    Most anyone can do 5-6 w/kg for a short burst but I doubt anyone here would even come close to it on a 45 minute climb.

    If they can they should be contacting an agent to arrange their pro contract.

    I put 20 minutes into the calculator. The usual number for FTP calcs. I put in a few different weights for the rider from 50 to 100 kgs hence the 5-6 range.

  • @geoffrey

    Maybe a few would get close to 5 w/kg for 20 minutes, but then to calculate FTP (sustainable power for one hour) you discount by a further 5%.

    On Andrew Coggan's scale FTP of 5.2-5.8 w/kg is classed as Domestic Pro.

  • @ChrisO

    I have to agree with your thoughts . All well conducted studies into strength training show that higher resistance training is more efficient in increasing strength gains . This comes with the proviso of using resistance high enough to approach the point of muscular failure . This would be much more difficult to achieve on a bike rather than in a gym where you can simply drop a barbell or dumbell instead of falling off your bike after 20 pedal strokes . In the quoted study subjects had to ride intervals of 6 minutes at 40 rpm which would equate to doing sets of an exercise in the gym for 240 repetitions : you wouldn't find too many athletes or coaches advocating that particular regime for strength gains .

    Interestingly though I think that Frank is on the right track . He often refers to how some positions or riding in the big ring feel better (and faster) . Have you ever wondered why riding a climb second time around feels easier (and faster) ? Is it that our guns have increased in power since the first climb ? Has our VO2 suddenly increased ? Or is it all "in the head" ? Is it The V ?

  • So I actually tried this climbing on the drops thing. Took 5 seconds off my best time on a steep (11%) 500m climb.

    It's weird - it uses different muscles to normal standing climbing. Normal standing climbing feels like climbing bouncy stairs. This feels more like pushing a heavy weight up a ramp.

  • @Puffy

    @frank

    Do both and get good at both. But climbing in the big ring is very good for building leg strength and that pays off on the long run.

    You think there is at least, and I would have agreed with you until I read this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24550843

    This seems weird to me.

    According to the abstract the "highly trained" athletes show considerable gains from moderate training, and the low cadence athletes showed nothing? That doesn't make any sense at all.

    I don't have access to the complete study though.

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