To Q or not to Q that is the Q.

Evolution doesn’t really seem to be part of the picture anymore, at least not where humans and our direct reports are concerned. We control an astounding number of genetic defects in ourselves, our pets, and agriculture while Science and Technology give Natural Selection swirlies in the locker room.

Take exercise-induced asthma, which is a condition I suffer from. Evolution suggests that if running from a predator invokes a crippling airflow obstruction, you were meant to be eaten. And even if capture was avoided through some staggering failure of circumstance, the predator should locate you wheezing away somewhere under a nearby bush and make a leisurely meal of you.

In my early teens, I saved my money to buy my first real race bike, a black and hot pink Cannonwhale SR600 with Shimano 105 and BioPace chainrings. BioPace chainrings weren’t the original non-round rings – they have been around since the turn of the twentieth century, shortly after some bright spark stumbled upon the fact that we were evolved to walk, not ride a bike.

I’m not a scientist, but I am given to understand that based on our complimentary pairs of muscles, as Cyclists our legs are only really good at pushing and pulling. The more lateral the movement involved, the less efficient we are at applying the strength of our muscles into the movement. This fundamentally flawed architecture results in a powerful downstroke and a strong upstroke, but with “dead spots” near the bottom and top of the pedal stroke. In other words, our muscles are designed to walk rather than ride a bike. Whoever made that decision should get fired, but it seems I don’t have the authority to “fire” Evolution. I think the Church is also trying to get it fired, also with no luck. Apparently Evolution is tenured.

To solve the problem of the dead spot, non-round rings seek to change the diameter of the chainring by ovalizing it so the rider experiences an effectively bigger gear at some points of the stroke and an effectively smaller gear at others. The problem with BioPace was that the rings weren’t the right shape and were set up so the effective chainring size was biggest where the lateral movement of the leg was also greatest. In addition to being a mind trip, they gave a peculiar feeling to the rider, as though they were riding on a perpetually softening tire. The rings went the way of the Dodo.

In Science and Technology’s ongoing effort to show Evolution the door, component manufacturers continue to experiment with non-round rings. Enter the modern incarnations: Q-Rings and Osymetric Rings. Q-Rings use a similar (but not identical) shape to BioPace but allow for changing the position of the rings based on the rider’s individual pedaling style with the idea that the largest effective gear aligns with the rider’s power stroke and the smallest effective gear with the dead spot. Osymetric uses an insane-looking shape which they claim better matches the irregular application of power caused by the dynamics of our poorly evolved legs.

I’ve spent the last month or so riding Q-Rings, and I have to admit you don’t feel any of the dreaded “biopacing” hobble. But in the long term, they also didn’t seem to offer any tangible advantage; after adjusting them according to their instructions (which takes some time), I found that depending on the day and the terrain, they were good, but never great. On any given ride, I might power up a grade with V in reserve for a surge at the top, and then find myself slipping into the little ring on a climb I normally ride sur la plaque. On the next ride, the scenario would reverse and I’d motor up a climb in the big ring that normally requires the 39 and little ring some faux plat into the wind a little later on. On balance, I found myself struggling to find power. One point to consider is all this is based on feel and knowing the gear ratios I use on familiar terrain – my use of a V-Meter and my avoidance of power meters means there is no tangible data to support or counter my conclusions. In other words, I’m not distracted by the facts.

I noticed that of the riders whose use of Q-Rings inspired my own experimentation – Marianne Vos and Johan Vansummeren – both have a relatively forward position with respect to their bottom bracket while I sit quite far back; maybe the rings favor such a position over mine. In any case, switching back to round rings, I’m able to find power more easily as well as being better able to maintain a cadence and accelerate. In other words, I’m more comfortable more often on round rings.

Maybe my pedaling style uses too wide a power band not suited for the Q’s, or maybe I have trascended evolution to favor rotational locomotion over bipedal. That last notion is not outside the realm of possibility because I can confirm I am pretty terrible at walking. The idea behind non-round rings continues to makes sense, but for me Q-Rings don’t do the job. I’ll give Osymetric a go if I get the opportunity but until then, I’m glad to be back in the round.

frank

The founder of Velominati and curator of The Rules, Frank was born in the Dutch colonies of Minnesota. His boundless physical talents are carefully canceled out by his equally boundless enthusiasm for drinking. Coffee, beer, wine, if it’s in a container, he will enjoy it, a lot of it. He currently lives in Seattle. He loves riding in the rain and scheduling visits with the Man with the Hammer just to be reminded of the privilege it is to feel completely depleted. He holds down a technology job the description of which no-one really understands and his interests outside of Cycling and drinking are Cycling and drinking. As devoted aesthete, the only thing more important to him than riding a bike well is looking good doing it. Frank is co-author along with the other Keepers of the Cog of the popular book, The Rules, The Way of the Cycling Disciple and also writes a monthly column for the magazine, Cyclist. He is also currently working on the first follow-up to The Rules, tentatively entitled The Hardmen. Email him directly at rouleur@velominati.com.

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  • @frank

    Lest we forget about these.

    Then there are those pedals which are mounted on crank arms. I forget their name but similar theory to oval rings I believe.

  • @frank

    @DerHoggz

    @frank

    It depends on what you mean by gear size. In a round system gear inches would be constant for all intervals of the stroke. With non-round the rollout for two different arbitrary sections of equal angle could be different. It actually is picking up more chain for a given angle of rotation in the "power zone" compared to the low spot.

    I'd like to see this on video or test it out myself; the wheel has a sprocket with, say, 17 teeth on it. The chainring has, say, 53 teeth on it. The chain is pulled through tooth for tooth, causing the wheel to turn once every time 17 links are pulled through by the chainring. Simple as that; the shape doesn't change that.

    Tooth count is essentially an analogue for circumference which is directly related to the radius of the ring

  • @The Grande Fondue

    TT postions, TT bikes and TT cranks have always been a special case.

    What's worse, the none-slammed stem on a funny bike or the 3x spokes, especially on the low-profile front wheel?

  • @TommyTubolare

    Lots of riders have saddle far forward and they are not slow as far as I can see. Lemond formulas worked for him but it doesn't mean they work for all of us.

    This. Ride in the position that makes you go mo'fasta, not in the position someone with a different physiology from you rode. There are merits to both styles of riding depending on how you done been stuck together.

    @TommyTubolare

    @frank

    It's either the photo or your saddle was too low.

    You are the only person who tells me that. And @minion but he's just taking the piss. I've actually raised it about 1cm from 2 years ago when the photo was taken. Just raised it another few mm earlier this week. 

    I can't recall for sure, but I may also have lowered it that day for riding the pavé. (That was my first day on Roubaix and that happens to be the Roubaix velodrome where the photo was taken.)

  • @DerHoggz (accidental half post)

    Bigger chainrings have a larger radius, thus they have a larger circumference and more teeth.  One rotation from a larger radius chainring pulls more links compared to one rotation of a smaller ring.  Same for a half rotation, same for a quarter rotation.  So for the larger radius part of a non-round, more links would be pulled through.  Two equiangular sweeps on a non-round ring can yield different average number of links pulled, which would not happen on a round ring.

  • @DerHoggz

    @frank

    @DerHoggz

    @frank

    It depends on what you mean by gear size. In a round system gear inches would be constant for all intervals of the stroke. With non-round the rollout for two different arbitrary sections of equal angle could be different. It actually is picking up more chain for a given angle of rotation in the "power zone" compared to the low spot.

    I'd like to see this on video or test it out myself; the wheel has a sprocket with, say, 17 teeth on it. The chainring has, say, 53 teeth on it. The chain is pulled through tooth for tooth, causing the wheel to turn once every time 17 links are pulled through by the chainring. Simple as that; the shape doesn't change that.

    Tooth count is essentially an analogue for circumference which is directly related to the radius of the ring

    Tooth count isn't an analogue for anything, its the number of revolutions you get out of the wheel. By effective gear size, what I think they mean is that you get the same mechanical advantage as you do out of a bigger gear, meaning at the point where it is effectively a 56T (or whatever @TommyTubs said), you moved the chain (folcrum) out to where a 56T ring would be as your pulling the chain along. At the smallest effective gear, you're moving the folcrum to where the 51T would be.

  • @frank

    Bicycle chain is half-inch pitch, so saying a ring has 53 teeth is the same is saying the ring has a circumference of 53x.5".  Chainrings essentially come in quantum circumferences.

  • @frank

    And now I'm being pedantic but the chain is he load, the bottom bracket would be the fulcrum.  It is a class 2 lever.

  • @mcsqueak

    @frank

    @DerHoggz

    Seems to me that moving your ankle too much is just wasted energy. I generally try to keep my foot in its natural position, meaning that when I lift my foot, the toes are down a bit when my foot is relaxed. That's more or less the lowest my ankle gets when I pedal, though my heel comes up during the upstroke. Most good shoes these days provide that shape to the foot, so it seems we're getting away from the shoes with the more articulated sole.

     

     

    That is a great photo and an interesting point you make about keeping your feet flat.

    I was on a ride last summer with @scaler911 and one of his teammates, and his teammate was behind me in our 'paceline'. Later he mentioned that he noticed I was pushing down on the pedals with my feet angled down (toes down/heel up) rather than flat.

    I think of that from time to time and try to pedal while keeping my feet flat, but it just doesn't feel right to me. Not sure if it's just sloppy form or how my body works.

    If you keep a consistent foot to shin angle through your magnificent stroke, because of the way your foot is aligned to the knee as it rotates around and through, it will look like you are toes down. In reality, your foot to shin angle will be pretty close to when your foot is horizontal to the ground at the bottom of your stroke the whole way round. Look in the photo of Frank and Marco, the angle is pretty close. To get your foot horizontal to the ground over the front/power portion of the stroke, you would need to flex your toes up relative to your shins as your knee is flexed and forward of your foot, then flex them away from your shins so that it sits horizontal all the way to the bottom of the stroke.

    You could do it, and I have read articles on 'ankling' on cyclingtips that suggest so, but I can't see it as comfortable for the majority of my pedalling. I chuck it in when tired to get a variation on muscle use, as Frank alluded to, when everything is hurting so bad, a change is as good as a holiday.

    A physio also mentioned this foot angle is generally fairly static for most riders, the calves and ankles are used mainly to stabilise the foot/shin relationship than add power, hence it will look like you're pedalling toes down when really your foot angle is consistent all the way round.

     

    YMMV

  • @DerHoggz

    @frank

    Bicycle chain is half-inch pitch, so saying a ring has 53 teeth is the same is saying the ring has a circumference of 53x.5"³. Chainrings essentially come in quantum circumferences.

    That's true, but the way the bicycle moves forward is by pulling 17 links through the system in order to rotate the wheel one revolution. That is the immutable fact of the sport. Everything else is a matter of finding the most efficient way to pull those links through. Changing the shape of the ring will pull no more or less teeth over the sprocket; if there is a gain in one spot, there is a loss in another.

    I still think the concept makes sense, just not for the reasons you're saying. It must have to do with the dynamics of the motion and shifting the load around to (hopefully) make the stroke more efficient. But that also means it will work only depending on your pedaling style. You say you ride forward, as do Vos and JVS and others. You should try them and see if you find an advantage or not.

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