Everyone knows that the quality of one’s character is measured by the size gear they can push, particularly when going uphill. It is also a well-established fact that no self-respecting Flemish Pro would ever ride a Compact, no matter what condition their knees are in or how ferocious the gradient. Which, by extension, means that Compacts are for sissies. In fact, a true Flandrian would rather lose their national race than ride a Sissy Gear.
The first time we rode with Johan Museeuw, we were shocked to find him aboard one of his carbon/flax race machines – and a compact chainset. Not wanting to offend an Apostle by suggesting he’s riding his son’s bike, I asked him what he thought of it. “I don’t like it. The big ring isn’t big enough for climbing.”
The standard Flemish chainset is – and has been for as long as the Ancients have tracked these details in their sacred scrolls – either a 53T or 52T outer ring paired to a 42T inner ring. On the occasions when the parcours will see them scaling the Koppenberg or Kapelmuur, the Belgians make a concession and dust off their trusty 41T inner ring in order to shorten the gear by a whopping single tooth. In the mountains or over in Wallonia (the land of savages) where they are far from the prying eyes of their proud public, the Flemish hardman may allow his mechanic to bolt on a lowly 39T ring, so long as no one brings it up at the dinner table. (It is worth noting that in Cyclocross it is standard practice to ride a 38T inner ring.)
Museeuw has never been a grimpeur, not when he was a Pro and not now. On Keepers Tour 2013, we had the opportunity to do several more rides with him, one of which was over the roads of Liege-Bastogne-Liege. It was customary for him to suggest alternate routes that avoided the steep hills, and so it was that he tried to talk us out of riding the Stockeu. We rode up side-by-side, taking our time. As we alternated between pedaling and doing track stands, he asked if I was riding a compact. I feigned a combination of exasperation and insult at such a question and told him it was a Flemish Compact.
“Oh, a 39? Goed.”
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@mouse
AH, you make one of the classic blunders, the other of which is never get involved in a land war in asia....
now where was I? Oh yes...
You have clearly confused the specific with the general. As @frank pointed out, no matter what *I* do, I would still suck. I feel great shame in this. However, others, upon amassing mucho dinero in the First National Bank of Stevens, find it *much easier to compete* against those not born with a silver gel shot in their mouth.
Wait until I get going.
Comitted compact rider here, with a 25/11 on the back there aint nothing you can't do. My spindly little legs can't munch a big gear but I get a lot of enjoyment of spinning past dudes trying to ride Flemish compact up hills when they really need mountain bike type gearing.
As others have said on undulating race courses I can just leave it in the 50 whilst others are dropping their chain etc and Eddy knows I will never spin out an 11 in a sprint.
@mouse
Unless Frank is Museeuw's landlord I think you mean tenet. At least I think you do for all intensive purposes.
If the argument is based on gearing then most people with standard chainsets will run a 12-25, and my Compact 50-11 is bigger than a Standard 53-12.
At the other end (having run through a straight block up to 19 on 11-23 I have a smaller gear in 34-23 than a Standard rider in 39-25, so if I need it I have more options on the hills.
It doesn't really matter what size the chainset is - gearing is a product of ratios between front and rear.
Unless you're climbing in 53-11 there's really very little difference.
@ChrisO
This.
You beat me to it ChrisO, I run exactly the same setup and can't figure out why people running 53/39 and 12-28 are waxing lyrical over why everyone should run bigger rings. So let me get this right: your top gear is lower so I'll drop you on the quick bits and you'll be chewing on your bar tape when I've got a gear in hand on the hills? And you've spent how much on your bike to make it lightweight and then put on a heavier set of rings and a cassette - explain how this is good exactly?
@DerHoggz
I am convinced big-big is the most mechanically efficient ratio for climbing. I'm just waiting to invent the math that proves it, like Newton did.
I'm going to invest in three chain rings in the coming weeks: a 42 for the road (for climbing), 46 for Roubaix (just to look Pro), and a 44T outter for CX (also for climbing - I've yet to find a CX course that has required a 38T - or 39T for that matter, in the US).
@JohnB
Or do all that on a Standard. And go mo'fasta.
At the very least, your bike will look more manly sitting at the cafe while you whimper inside.
You start off saying you get the gist, and then you close with this. One of us is confused. Take a guess which one.
@trhoppe
I've got a 50/39 on the CX Graveur Robber. It is a lovely gear to climb in. On 33mm tires. On gravel. We're talking about the same thing, right?
@Marcus
I hate to get serious here, even for a second, but they're doing that to get a straighter chain line in the gears they're running.
He's still dropping you because he's faster; he's probably still riding the same gear as you. Martin rode that giant 58 or whatever in the ITT at the Tour just so he could ride a good gear (16 or 17) in a very straight chainline. Works.
@harminator
This. That photo is all man, all the time.
@Marcus
Its a shame his cheek-in-tongue misspelling was fundamentally wrong.
@ChrisO
No, the "argument" is that compacts are for sissies, 39's are borderline, 41Ts are strangely specific, and 42s are badass.
Its funny you mention this because I think he spent 90%+ of his time in the 53x11. No shit.