Velominati Super Prestige: Giro d’Italia 2012
After a winter of long training rides that offered more in the way of numb extremities than it did in acute enjoyment, I have to say that the warming of the air and brightening of the skies have served to remind me that while I love riding in bad weather, I certainly don’t have anything against riding when its nice out.
But dont think for a minute that this quells my desire to watch the Pros battle the elements as well as each other and, quite frankly, after a Spring Classics campaign that gave us only fleeting tastes of Rule #9 Glory, I welcome the arrival of the 2012 Giro d’Italia which holds the distinction of being held in the worst weather and over the worst roads. Come July, I’ll get just as wound up as anyone about the biggest racing spectacle of the year, but in my heart, the Giro d’Italia is the best Grand Tour of the three.
All that said, I’m a little disappointed to see that the Giro starts in Denmark. Not that I have anything against Denmark – lovely place – it’s just that this choice takes us away from the classical Giro opening week involving a mountaintop finish or two and gives us a Tour de France-style opening week of flat stages and crosswinds. We’ll have to wait almost two weeks before we start seeing the riders cross the highest passes and hitting the uphill finishes, though the final week does appear to set us up for considerable fireworks as the second-last stage will see the riders cross the Mortirolo and finish atop the Stelvio.
What does this mean for the VSP? Quite a bit, actually. Bearing in mind the changes we’ve made to the Rest-Day picks from the years past, it means that as the race settles out, those who have made changes to their lineup on the first rest day will not have the opportunity to do so again on the second rest day. And, those who wait for the second day will see steep penalties tallying up against their totals. But on the line is a Symbol Pack, the chance to post for the rest of year with the Maglia Rosa VSP Badge and, of course, the grand prize of the personalized Shop Apron. Check the start list and with any divine beings that you might be able to influence, and then get your picks in by the time the countdown timer goes to zero at 5am Pacific on the 5th May.
For reference, please review the new Grand Tour scoring and penalty guidelines. Also note that since these new rules required new coding and this represents the first Grand Tour, there is always the chance that there are defects in the code. Watch your picks and your points as we move through the event and alert us of any anomalies. If your points seem wrong, use the dispute function to alert us of the matter; complaints in the posts feed to this effect will be ignored. Finally, don’t leave anything to the last minute so we have time to fix any problems before its too late. Good luck.
Scoring:
Readers who wish to enter shall enter their predictions for the top five placings on General Classification of each Grand Tour by 5am on the day of the first stage or prologue.
Points
Points will be scored as follows: 20 points for first place, 15 for second, 10 for third, 7 for fourth, and 5 for fifth; plus 3 points per rider in the top five regardless of the rider’s placing, but riders are not scored twice.
Changing of the Picks*
Contestants are allowed to make line up changes on one of the rest days of the Grand Tours but not both. These changes will come with a point penalty. You will be allotted one (1) rest day to make swaps in grand tours. You pick either the first or second rest day. The penalties for swapping will be lower for the first rest day than the second. This will allow you to swap out a rider(s) who gets caught in some first week nervousness with a 5 point penalty for each swap. Or make some go for broke/doomed to fail break-away swap on the second rest day for a 10 point penalty per swap. You make one swap or five on either rest day for the corresponding 5 or 10 point penalty per swap.
Additionally, if one of your riders crashes out, DNF’s, or DNS’s, you may swap them out on a rest day with corresponding penalties if you haven’t already used up your one rest day swap. The only exception to this is riders who are booted from a race for a positive test; if your rider is on the juice and gets chucked off the race, you get a free swap of that rider within 24 hours of the disqualification.
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VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Schleck
3. Basso
4. Hesjedal
5. Gadret
Really, really hoping Ryder can pull this off!
VSP PICKS:
1. old style
2. basso
3. ryder
4. jrod
5. schleckelder
@RMK
Spoiler alert: he can’t.
And welcome, if you haven’t been welcomed before! You must be Canadian. I once was thrown out of a Canadian pub for cheering for the Norwegian team during an Olympic hockey match. During the Olympics. At Whistler.
@scaler911
Froonk proves he lacks The V!
I can’t help feel entirely and singularly responsible for the success of this thread given my suggestion that you needed to be involved in at least 2 arguments to entitle you to make picks.
The rest of you can get bent.
@minion
That’s not an arguement! It’s just contradiction.
@Daccordi Rider
Careful, fuckface. Mispelling of the name “Frank” is my domain and is meant to refer to me. That statement just accused me of lacking the V. Surely that couldn’t be what you mean. I believe you meant “Fränk lacks the V”. Learn to use your keyboard or just spell it as “Frank”. First warning.
I remembered the best thing about last years Giro – Nibbles getting dropped on the uphill bits only to catch back on the descents!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPXIdGy1iM0
VSP PICKS:
1. Basso
2. Scarponi
3. Kreuziger
4. Schleck, F
5. Hesjedal
@Harminator not to mention the attack he launched as soon as he got back on, only to blow to pieces minutes later.
@frank
‘pologies, learner mistake. Prbly don’t need to point out FSchmuck lacks.
Here is a cycling photo to make amends.
@Mikael Liddy
Right!
And also the only interesting thing Clenbeutador has ever done:
VSP PICKS:
1. Bass
2. Scarponi
3. Cunego
4. Schleck
5. Rodriguez
@Daccordi Rider
All is forgiven, of course. You can call Grimpelder whatever you want, just don’t spell his name as Frahnk or Fronk or Froonk or any derivation of the such as that will cause confusion as people like to misspell my name that way and instult me through other channels.
Insulting me, of course, is both approved and encouraged; its the confusion of insulting the Grimpelder and making it look like you’re insulting ME that was at odds here.
Moving on.
Unrelated topic: A Schleck needs to win a Grand Tour THIS YEAR or they are off the books for good. Seriously; I love me a flawed character to root for, but the entitlement and bitching has to come at the cost of a win, boys.
Ullrich never fucking bitched. He fought like a man, lost like a man.
VSP PICKS:
1. Basso
2. Scarponi
3. Kreuziger
4. Rujano
5. Hesjedal
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Kreuziger
3. Basso
4. Rujano
5. Hesjedal
VSP PICKS:
1. Basso
2. Kreuziger
3. J Rod
4. Rujano
5. Hesjedal
@frank
A-fucking Merckx on the Schleck, der Kaiser comparison. Quit looking behind yourself and go uphill already.
But he won’t.
@scaler911
The one time he did last year was on Iozard, got a bit of respect back for that one. I rode that stage last year and it was fuckin hard, took me 2 days (with an additional 1200m of climbing and finishing in Bourg). I dip my lid on that attack, the rest of his work is rearview mirror stuff.
@scaler911
He’s from Luxembourg, where apparently bitching is a birthright.
@minion
I’m hearing reports of a severe sheep shortage in the vicinity of Canberra. No wonder you have so much free time right now.
@frank
After the recent flap with Brunyeel I read a convincing article somewhere that said if the Schlecks want to be GT contenders they need to get on Johan’s program and learn the fuck to TT. (And go downhill). If they don’t want to, they need to accept the fact that they are one dimensional grimpeurs and accept their lot in life.
@Nate
Tell me about it! Lying bastards told me Canberra was a sheep station, I get here and it’s full of fucking politicians and public servants. SOBs.
@Marko
fairy nuff
http://www.atwistedspoke.com/schleck-man-up-program-continues-new-roommate-pillows/
http://www.atwistedspoke.com/rapper-lil-kim-replaces-kim-anderson-results-instant/
Doubting but willing to put online.
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Basso @ 1.01
3. F Sch(ore N)leck @3.30
4. Kreuziger @3.40
5. Gadret @4.15
@frank
That’s good to hear as I thought I might do this and this when I’m down that way in the summer.
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Hesjedal
3. Kreuziger
4. Basso
5. J-Rod
In for a penny, in for a pound!
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Kreuziger
3. Basso
4. Pinotti
5. Uran
Yeah, I had to take Basso out. Of course that means he’ll probably WIN now.
VSP PICKS:
1. Cunego
2. Scarponi
3. Kreuziger
4. Hesjedal
5. Gadret
@frank
Not sure I’d even put him on the podium for this year’s Tour at the moment. Funnily enough, I see Wiggins and Evans finishing above him. Who’da thunk things would change so quickly that Wiggo would be a favourite over Schleck…
VSP PICKS:
1. Basso
2. Scarponi
3. Hesjedal
4. F. Schleck
5. Cunego
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Basso
3. Kreuziger
4. RodrÃguez
5. Hesjedal
Here’s a question: What fool thought it was a good idea for Chrastian Broken Vandebone to ride TWO grand tours in one year? When was the last time he did that unscathed?
VSP PICKS:
1. Basso
2. Scarponi
3. R. Hesjedal
4. J. Rodriguez
5. F. Schleck
I wouldn’t pick Basso(may still yank him) but with all the hard stuff in the last week I’m sticking with him. I’ll be very interested to see how Hesjedal does, he and Kreuziger appear to be the best TTers in my group.
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Basso
3. Kreuzgier
4. Schleck
5. Hesjedal
@Sauterelle
I think he’s ordering a couple of cold ones.
@frank
No sweat. I will just revert to the “no contractions” mode of writing that I use for work. I will sound more the snobby douche than I actually am.
@The Oracle
Either that or he is letting the Elder Schleck know what he thinks of his comments in Cycling News.
i could nail all these dead on the money and still be sucking hind tit
Life is too busy, and when you don’t even have time to do your V picks, well, your toooooooo busy!
VSP PICKS:
1. Kruezinger Missle
2. Scarponi…like last years 2nd
3. PozzoVino
4. Nibbles
5. J-Rod
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Kreuzinger
3. Rujano Guillen
4. Rodriguez
5. Hesjedal
@The Oracle
For the Schlecks. “Here boys, sit down and let me tell you about manhood…”
And it looks Jersey-douche unless you are a Swiss monster that TTs like nobody else. Then it looks V.
@frank
I loved der Kaiser for that attitude. The only time I remember him even complaining a bit was when he was “cross with his own performance.” Like a lot of people, he took on pharmastrong, but never whined publicly.
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Kreuziger
3. Basso
4. Ryder
5. F’ing Schleck
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Cunego
3. Basso
4. Hesjedal
5. F Schleck
Gotta make a play some time. I’m going with Basso; he’s the only rider big enough not to be a fluke, but I actually don’t think he’ll win. The problem is I can’t think of anyone else who will. I think Scarponi could play but I think he’s just not a true GT rider.
The Angry Cross could be close, as could Winona. Then there’s the opportunist in J-Rod and the predictably lackluster performance of Frankieboy to consider. Brutalness…
To go with my heart it would be Frank taking the win and restoring faith in the brothers grimpeur.
VSP PICKS:
1. Basso
2. The Angry Cross
3. Hope of a Nation
4. J-Rod
5. Grimpelder
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Basso
3. Cunego
4. F. Schleck
5. Hesjedal
Pozzato’s probably got no chance but I am gonna personally meditate every morning of the Giro and send him my Positive Venergy in the hope that he will prevail. Why? I just like him and A) As a Scot we usually go for the underdog, B) It’s probably his last chance, and C) It’s a bit of a crap-shoot anyway. Good luck one and all.
VSP PICKS:
1. Pozzato
2. Kreuziger
3. Cunego
4. Scarponi
5. Basso
VSP PICKS:
1. Scarponi
2. Basso
3. Kreuziger
4. Rodriguez
5. Rujano
Peter Stetina was hit today during a training ride on the prologue course…What’s up with all these guys getting hit by cars?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/stetina-struck-by-car-whilst-training-on-giro-ditalia-opening-time-trial-course
Random selection of possibilities.
VSP PICKS:
1. Basso
2. Scarponi
3. Cunego
4. Hesjedal
5. J Rod
@niksch
I wish they’d just keep all the damned cars away from the bikes!
@The Oracle
I think he was responding to Johan Bruyneel, who asked how many fluffy pillows Andy had on his bed.