Velominati Super Prestige: Giro d’Italia 2017

I spy with my little eye a certain Michele Scarponi, who sadly lost his life while out training near his home two weeks ago, in there amongst his teammates after his captain, Nibbles, won the race. I’m torn about a death like Michele’s – we subject ourselves to similar risks every time we climb aboard our bikes and we accept it as part and parcel of our craft. Yet, while every day members of our tribe lose their lives to their trade, it takes a high profile rider to remind us how real that risk is.

But onto lighter topics, Nibali won the Giro last year going downhill, and it happened on the one stage I managed to sleep through which is another way of saying I missed it. But I love waking up to a that WTF feeling only a reshuffled GS can give you.

The race starts Friday morning, which is sooner than I expected, so I’ll stop typing so you can start picking. Get them in by the time the clock goes to zero, and remember that our Grand Tour scoring rules are a little different than the smaller events. So jump on that start list and get prognosticating!

Good luck!

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The founder of Velominati and curator of The Rules, Frank was born in the Dutch colonies of Minnesota. His boundless physical talents are carefully canceled out by his equally boundless enthusiasm for drinking. Coffee, beer, wine, if it’s in a container, he will enjoy it, a lot of it. He currently lives in Seattle. He loves riding in the rain and scheduling visits with the Man with the Hammer just to be reminded of the privilege it is to feel completely depleted. He holds down a technology job the description of which no-one really understands and his interests outside of Cycling and drinking are Cycling and drinking. As devoted aesthete, the only thing more important to him than riding a bike well is looking good doing it. Frank is co-author along with the other Keepers of the Cog of the popular book, The Rules, The Way of the Cycling Disciple and also writes a monthly column for the magazine, Cyclist. He is also currently working on the first follow-up to The Rules, tentatively entitled The Hardmen. Email him directly at rouleur@velominati.com.

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  • @Rick

    @wiscot

    I agree 100% on the TTs. I would love to see a July 2018 showdown among, Froome, Porte, and Tom D.

    A nice little 25-30 km TT in the first and third weeks, and a 60 kms in the middle week. That would really force the hand of the racers, particularly the climbers, as they'd need to factor in time gained/lost in the TTs and apply that to the mountains. It would make for a better, more even race.This year the Tour has two TTs - a 13km prologue and a 23 km TT the second to last day. Not. Remotely. Enough.

  • @wiscot

    Agreed, not nearly enough. I love the last stage as a TT but the Champs has become so important for the sprinters that most would drop out the last week if it was a final stage TT.

     

  • @Rick

    @wiscot

    Agreed, not nearly enough. I love the last stage as a TT but the Champs has become so important for the sprinters that most would drop out the last week if it was a final stage TT.

    You could have a TT on the last but one.  Still leave the precession to the Champs and the sprint.

  • @Teocalli

    Why not both?

    As several riders pointed out in Giro interviews their race had ended on Saturday - 90% of the field was just going through the motions.

    Let teams nominate riders for a short neutralised sprint stage in the morning and just have 20-30 riders for a TT to follow and decide the final classification - the top GC riders and any TT specialists.

    It wasn't unusual in years gone by to have split stages on a single day.

     

  • @ChrisO

    @Teocalli

    Why not both?

    As several riders pointed out in Giro interviews their race had ended on Saturday – 90% of the field was just going through the motions.

    Let teams nominate riders for a short neutralised sprint stage in the morning and just have 20-30 riders for a TT to follow and decide the final classification – the top GC riders and any TT specialists.

    It wasn’t unusual in years gone by to have split stages on a single day.

    Or make the last TT for the top 30 riders plus any riders still in with a shout for a classification. Ok, it's not the full meal deal, but it would save a few legs for a more dynamic Champs stage.

  • @Jansen

    Why did I not get my 20 points for getting Tom’s first place right? Probably because of this crappy picks entry that did not work. I’m off.

    Well the actual VSP entry was opened after race start if I recall correctly. Just simply listing your picks, which a lot of us did in advance of race start and the entry being open, was for fun. You may have actually been the one and only original TD for the win pick too ! There were more than a few Steve K's picked but TD's ?? Not before the 1st rest day I believe.

  • @wiscot

    @Rick

    @wiscot

    I agree 100% on the TTs. I would love to see a July 2018 showdown among, Froome, Porte, and Tom D.

    A nice little 25-30 km TT in the first and third weeks, and a 60 kms in the middle week. That would really force the hand of the racers, particularly the climbers, as they’d need to factor in time gained/lost in the TTs and apply that to the mountains. It would make for a better, more even race.This year the Tour has two TTs – a 13km prologue and a 23 km TT the second to last day. Not. Remotely. Enough.

    Interesting.  I seem to recall, though, that people whined (not here, just in general) that too many TT's made for a boring race.  The strong big riders would dominate the time trials, then just hang on for all of the other stages and nothing much else would happen.

  • @MangoDave

    @wiscot

    @Rick

    @wiscot

    I agree 100% on the TTs. I would love to see a July 2018 showdown among, Froome, Porte, and Tom D.

    A nice little 25-30 km TT in the first and third weeks, and a 60 kms in the middle week. That would really force the hand of the racers, particularly the climbers, as they’d need to factor in time gained/lost in the TTs and apply that to the mountains. It would make for a better, more even race.This year the Tour has two TTs – a 13km prologue and a 23 km TT the second to last day. Not. Remotely. Enough.

    Interesting. I seem to recall, though, that people whined (not here, just in general) that too many TT’s made for a boring race. The strong big riders would dominate the time trials, then just hang on for all of the other stages and nothing much else would happen.

    But that's where a well-balanced route comes in. The TT create gaps that maybe give big lads like Dumoulin an advantage over the climbers, who then have to attack in the mountains to shake off said big lads. Dumoulin struggled mightily the last few days in the Giro but came through. In another scenario he might not have held on. Imagine if there had been one more mountain stage after the last TT in the Giro? What racing we would have seen. Currently, we get mountain stage after mountain stage, many of which get a bit boring as the big names mark each other out of the game - Mt Etna stage this year being a great example. Look at the racing on Saturday's Giro stage. That was incredible as the parcours had been made so that the perfect scenario emerged - the top 5 basically being up for grabs.

    It also puts more emphasis on the rider AND the team.

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