Velominati Super Prestige: Tour de France 2017

As many of you know, I write a monthly column for Cyclist Magazine where I answer Dear Abby-esque questions, and the most recent query pertained to whether I consider the Tour the best race of the year, or whether it’s an over-publicized circus. The question made me realize something about myself: I have a weariness around the Tour de France not unlike a romantic whose heart has been broken one too many times.

The fact is, as much as I prefer a race like Paris-Roubaix or the Giro d’Italia to the mid-summer shit show that is the Tour de France, nothing gets my anticipation going quite the way the Tour does, which is undeniably the pinnacle of the season; all the classifications and stages are prestigious enough that racers of all sorts are all arriving at the start in peak form. There is a promise of hard racing from day one, but the first week consists mostly of me worrying about the big favorites crashing out. As soon as we get through that mess, my heart is usually broken on the first day in the mountains, when the favorite takes a decisive lead and the rest of the race is most about stages than the GC.

At least, these are the dreads of a man who lived through the Indurain and Armstrong eras of racing.

Nevertheless, the Tour always manages to seduce me, and this year is no different. Maybe this year, she won’t be such a cruel lover. And, maybe this year, I won’t make horrible picks in the VSP. Just maybe, just maybe. You know the drill; get your picks in by the time the clock goes to zero, and you get some swap options on the rest day. Good luck!
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frank

The founder of Velominati and curator of The Rules, Frank was born in the Dutch colonies of Minnesota. His boundless physical talents are carefully canceled out by his equally boundless enthusiasm for drinking. Coffee, beer, wine, if it’s in a container, he will enjoy it, a lot of it. He currently lives in Seattle. He loves riding in the rain and scheduling visits with the Man with the Hammer just to be reminded of the privilege it is to feel completely depleted. He holds down a technology job the description of which no-one really understands and his interests outside of Cycling and drinking are Cycling and drinking. As devoted aesthete, the only thing more important to him than riding a bike well is looking good doing it. Frank is co-author along with the other Keepers of the Cog of the popular book, The Rules, The Way of the Cycling Disciple and also writes a monthly column for the magazine, Cyclist. He is also currently working on the first follow-up to The Rules, tentatively entitled The Hardmen. Email him directly at rouleur@velominati.com.

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  • @Teocalli

    @VbyV

    What makes me think you are fundamentally anti Froome vs enjoying the TdF with an open mind?




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    I don't mind if Froome wins.  I just don't get the tactics of Astana at the finish.  Also I find it boring watching the Sky train crush everyone, so anything that makes for more competition is a good thing in my mind.

  • @Teocalli

    @VbyV

    You may (or may not) have noticed that it was Froome that encouraged everyone to rotate to set up the chase.




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    This is smart tactics by Froome.  He had the most to lose letting Bardet get the stage and time on him.  At least in my mind.  That's why I was so confused that Astana didn't come up with a better plan to take some time, especially as they had 2 riders in the small group.

  • @VbyV

    For me the tactics would be for Fuglsang to attack the group, Aru forces Froome to chase, then once Froome catches Fuglsang, Aru attacks and gets away for the stage win.




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    I would admit that Movistar tactics seem to be a bit haphazard over the years.  Queue Valverde's "support" for Quintana (not just this TdF).  Though with Fulgsang's deficit not sure Froome would necessarily feel the need to cover him.  I think Froome just saw the chance of the stage for himself if he could get the group chasing.

  • @Teocalli

    @Rick

    Note sure that mixing 11% of a single climb with 1% of the total duration of the TdF is a valid comparison. Smacks of a case of there being lies, damn lies and statistics! (Insert random punctuation of choice).

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    Not doing that at all. I am merely pointing out that with final places being decided by a fraction of 1% of total ride time neutralizing the toughest climb for a significant time would benefit the leader.

    Put another way, how much time could be gained or lost on a 10.3% gradient in a kilometer? How much if that kilometer was 14-15% (which parts of the climb are).

     

  • @Rick

    @Teocalli

    @Rick

    Note sure that mixing 11% of a single climb with 1% of the total duration of the TdF is a valid comparison. Smacks of a case of there being lies, damn lies and statistics! (Insert random punctuation of choice).

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    Not doing that at all. I am merely pointing out that with final places being decided by a fraction of 1% of total ride time neutralizing the toughest climb for a significant time would benefit the leader.

    Put another way, how much time could be gained or lost on a 10.3% gradient in a kilometer? How much if that kilometer was 14-15% (which parts of the climb are).

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    So if the other contenders think that they should actually stop and wait, thereby neutralising the neutralisation?

  • @VbyV

    @Rick

    @VbyV

    @Rick

    @Rick

    Kudos to Froome. He attacked on the Mont du Chat and took his turns at the front on the run in to the finish. Froome has done the leader’s jersey proud the last two years by riding like a true champion.

    Chapeau Monsieur Froome.

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    WHY did the others not force Froome to do all the work to the finish? They had nothing to gain by chasing down Bardet. That was Froome’s chase to make to keep yellow from Bardet.

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    Because save Aru, they were all going for the stage win. Also, all Froome had to do was shadow Aru. The only thing on offer for Froome were bonus seconds and they were only really important if Aru got them and Froome got none.

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    So then why didn’t Froome just sit on Aru’s wheel?




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    This is situational. Your initial question was "Why didn't everyone sit on Froome's wheel?" The answer is two fold: Many were looking for the stage win and Froome had no incentive to chase alone.

    My comment regarding sitting on Aru's wheel was offered in support of my stance that Froome had no incentive to pull the entire group along. When everyone was working together Froome took his pulls. His incentive was to get a few seconds in time bonuses and increase his lead, which he achieved. That is a significantly differnt situation than if the other riders all sucked his wheel.

    One thing Froome has shown is that he is a real racer. Phil said yesterday's stage reminded him of 1989 when LeMond, Fignon, along with the other leading contenders sprinted for the line. Kudos to the bunch of them.

  • @Teocalli

    @Rick

    @Teocalli

    @Rick

    Note sure that mixing 11% of a single climb with 1% of the total duration of the TdF is a valid comparison. Smacks of a case of there being lies, damn lies and statistics! (Insert random punctuation of choice).

    0

    Not doing that at all. I am merely pointing out that with final places being decided by a fraction of 1% of total ride time neutralizing the toughest climb for a significant time would benefit the leader.

    Put another way, how much time could be gained or lost on a 10.3% gradient in a kilometer? How much if that kilometer was 14-15% (which parts of the climb are).

    0

    So if the other contenders think that they should actually stop and wait, thereby neutralising the neutralisation?

    0

    Sorry if it wasn't clear. The other riders waiting IS the neutralization.

  • @Rick

    @Teocalli

    @Rick

    @Teocalli

    @Rick

    Note sure that mixing 11% of a single climb with 1% of the total duration of the TdF is a valid comparison. Smacks of a case of there being lies, damn lies and statistics! (Insert random punctuation of choice).

    0

    Not doing that at all. I am merely pointing out that with final places being decided by a fraction of 1% of total ride time neutralizing the toughest climb for a significant time would benefit the leader.

    Put another way, how much time could be gained or lost on a 10.3% gradient in a kilometer? How much if that kilometer was 14-15% (which parts of the climb are).

    0

    So if the other contenders think that they should actually stop and wait, thereby neutralising the neutralisation?

    0

    Sorry if it wasn’t clear. The other riders waiting IS the neutralization.

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    It was absolutely clear.  My point is that your logic applies if the other riders ride some way up the road slowly.  If they actually stop, stationary, static, not moving along with whoever then the logic no longer applies.

  • @Teocalli

    @VbyV

    For me the tactics would be for Fuglsang to attack the group, Aru forces Froome to chase, then once Froome catches Fuglsang, Aru attacks and gets away for the stage win.

    0

    I would admit that Movistar tactics seem to be a bit haphazard over the years. Queue Valverde’s “support” for Quintana (not just this TdF). Though with Fulgsang’s deficit not sure Froome would necessarily feel the need to cover him. I think Froome just saw the chance of the stage for himself if he could get the group chasing.

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    Fuglsang is only 1:37 down in 5th place.  But I see your point.

  • @Teocalli

    @Rick

    @Teocalli

    @Rick

    @Teocalli

    @Rick

    Note sure that mixing 11% of a single climb with 1% of the total duration of the TdF is a valid comparison. Smacks of a case of there being lies, damn lies and statistics! (Insert random punctuation of choice).

    0

     

    Not doing that at all. I am merely pointing out that with final places being decided by a fraction of 1% of total ride time neutralizing the toughest climb for a significant time would benefit the leader.

    Put another way, how much time could be gained or lost on a 10.3% gradient in a kilometer? How much if that kilometer was 14-15% (which parts of the climb are).

    0

     

    So if the other contenders think that they should actually stop and wait, thereby neutralising the neutralisation?

    0

     

    Sorry if it wasn’t clear. The other riders waiting IS the neutralization.

    0

     

    It was absolutely clear. My point is that your logic applies if the other riders ride some way up the road slowly. If they actually stop, stationary, static, not moving along with whoever then the logic no longer applies.




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    This conversation is excellent.  I love trying to figure out the tactics of the races.  As we have all heard before, the strongest guy wins the Tour, but tactics can at least make it interesting!

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